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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

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Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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Episode 74: Why Entrepreneurial Spirit Can Ruin Your Team

In this solo episode, Kerri dives into the hiring phrase “entrepreneurial spirit” and why it may be doing more harm than good. Drawing from her personal experiences and lessons as a founder, she explains how this phrase can attract the wrong candidates, disrupt culture, and lead to expensive hiring missteps. Hear what Airbnb’s Brian Chesky says about culture, discover surprising data on entrepreneur mental health, and get phrases you should be using in your job descriptions to foster alignment and creativity.

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