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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

Headshot of Missouri podcast host Kerri M. Roberts with microphone for Don't Waste the Chaos

Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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Episode 8: How to Buy a Home: What You Need to Know About Lenders, Credit & Real Estate

In this episode, Kerri interviews Terry Roberts, a 25+ year real estate and mortgage powerhouse, to discuss primary and secondary home purchases as well as investment options. He shares how he get started in real estate, tips on how to choose a good lender for one of the largest purchases of your life and brings some insider information on the home buy process, whether its for a primary or secondary home, or even an investment property.

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Episode 7: Best HR & Payroll Software for Small Business: What You Actually Need

In this episode, our host Kerri Roberts interviews Cody Cummings, Sr. Business Consultant with Tesseon, about HR & payroll software for small businesses. Tesseon is a payroll & HR compliance services company that brings your payroll and HR operations into one platform. Key features of their system are hiring, onboarding, employee tracking, payroll, benefits administration, and expense management, but most of all, Tesseon puts great customer service at the top of their list.

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Episode 6: Mastering the Entrepreneurial Mindset.

In this episode, the host explores the qualities and challenges of being an entrepreneur. She shares personal experiences and insights to help aspiring business owners determine if they have what it takes to succeed. The key qualities of a good entrepreneur include visionary leadership, resilience and perseverance, adaptability and flexibility, innovative thinking, risk management, networking and relationship building. The challenges of starting a new business include uncertainty and risk, financial constraints, market competition, balancing priorities, navigating regulations and compliance, building a strong team, managing cash flow, marketing and branding, adapting to change, and managing stress and burnout.

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Episode 5: How to Lead Remote & Hybrid Teams: Expectations, Trust & Performance

Have you been hesitant to allow your employees to work from home? Or did you say yes, but you feel like things aren't going the best? This episode discusses strategies and practices for managing effectively in remote and hybrid work environments. The fundamentals of management remain the same, but adapting management practices to the partially or fully remote setting is crucial.

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Episode 4: EmpowHER: Mastering Pay Negotiation for Women

Are you a female ready to claim your worth in the workplace through essential negotiation skills? This conversation explores the challenges women face in negotiations, including socialization and gender norms, perceived likeability versus assertiveness, lack of role models, pay equity and gender bias, internalized stereotypes, and fear of rejection or backlash. Kerri shares a personal example of negotiating for her worth and emphasizes the importance of research, confidence, effective communication, flexibility, and negotiating with data.

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Episode 3: How to Build a Strategic Plan for Any Size Business (Mission, Vision & Real Alignment)

In this episode, we’re diving deep into the importance of strategic planning for businesses of all sizes. Whether you're a solo entrepreneur or leading a team, strategic planning can be your guiding light to success. I’m sharing practical reasons why a strategic plan is crucial, including providing direction and focus, resource allocation and efficiency, and adaptability to change.

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Episode 1: Welcome to Don’t Waste the Chaos

I’m Kerri Roberts, founder of Salt and Light Advisors, and I’ll be sharing my two decades of corporate experience, insights, and strategies. From performance reviews to real estate investments, and empowering women in business, we'll unravel the challenges, celebrate the victories, and learn from the setbacks. Join me as we dive into actionable strategies, innovative solutions, and real-life stories that can help you thrive in both your business and personal life.

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