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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

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Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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Episode 82: Why Morale Is Tanking in Your Team (And What to Do About It)

The real test of leadership isn’t how fast you grow - it’s how you show up when growth slows. Most leaders panic. They downsize in a frenzy, hide behind vague language like ‘restructuring,’ and leave their teams in the dark. But right sizing? That’s different. That’s stewardship. That’s intentional. And if you're not planning your workforce like you plan your marketing, you're already behind.

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Episode 39: Transform Your Workplace Culture

In this episode, our host Kerri M. Roberts interviews Brandi Spurling, founder of Sage Culture Co. Brandi’s unique approach to leadership and workplace culture stems from her master’s in strategic leadership combined with her background in theatre and stand-up comedy. She’s the perfect blend of insightful and entertaining, making her a dynamic keynote speaker on organizational culture.

In this episode, Brandi shares her journey to founding Sage Culture Co. and her passion for transforming employee culture. We dive deep into the key elements that define a strong workplace environment, the leadership role in shaping culture, and practical strategies to create a thriving team. Whether you’re an HR professional or a business leader, you’ll walk away with actionable advice and a renewed perspective on building empowered teams.

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