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A top-rated HR + leadership podcast with 80%+ listener retention.

A top-rated HR + leadership podcast with 80%+ listener retention.

Hosted by Kerri M. Roberts, this is where bold business leadership meets real life.

New episodes weekly. Listen on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.

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Why Leaders Tune In

Our listeners aren’t casual scrollers - they’re CEOs, founders, HR leaders, and entrepreneurs who crave real talk, not fluff.

– 41K+ new views in just 4 months
– 30K+ binge-worthy, engaged views
– 80%+ episode retention (industry-beating)
– 5 STARS on Apple Podcasts
Recognized as one of the fastest-growing HR + leadership podcasts

It’s the podcast leaders binge on the weekend - and bring up in meetings on Monday.

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Don’t Waste the Chaos was built on the belief that our hardest seasons can become our greatest teachers.

We feature bold leaders, HR pros, and entrepreneurs who bring raw, real stories of:

  • Leadership & business growth

  • Resilience, rebuilding, and clarity

  • Faith, purpose, and meaning

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EP 88: Stop Underpaying Yourself: The Hidden Cost Every Entrepreneur Must Face

Are you consistently putting your team or mission ahead of your own paycheck? You’re not alone - 26% of small business owners don’t pay themselves at all. In this episode, Kerri Roberts dives into the real impact of underpaying yourself: from burnout and financial stress to setting the wrong precedent for your team. Learn why fair owner compensation is leadership, not selfishness, and how to reframe loyalty to build a healthier, more sustainable business.

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Episode 85: This Tiny HR Mistake Could Burn Your Whole Business Down

Most leaders think HR is just paperwork—but what if it’s the blind spot that’s quietly draining profits and exposing your company to legal risks? In this episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, Kerri Roberts breaks down the overlooked dangers of skipping an HR audit and gives you a simple DIY framework to spot risks before they become disasters. From compliance pitfalls to culture killers, this wake-up call will change the way you see your people operations forever.

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Episode 82: Why Morale Is Tanking in Your Team (And What to Do About It)

The real test of leadership isn’t how fast you grow - it’s how you show up when growth slows. Most leaders panic. They downsize in a frenzy, hide behind vague language like ‘restructuring,’ and leave their teams in the dark. But right sizing? That’s different. That’s stewardship. That’s intentional. And if you're not planning your workforce like you plan your marketing, you're already behind.

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Episode 81: Right Sizing vs Layoffs | Lead with Integrity or Panic Like Everyone Else

The real test of leadership isn’t how fast you grow - it’s how you show up when growth slows. Most leaders panic. They downsize in a frenzy, hide behind vague language like ‘restructuring,’ and leave their teams in the dark. But right sizing? That’s different. That’s stewardship. That’s intentional. And if you're not planning your workforce like you plan your marketing, you're already behind.

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Episode 78: It’s Not About What to Do, It’s About Why You Still Don’t Do It

You already know what to do, so why aren’t you doing it?
In this episode, Kerri reveals why real change requires nervous system safety, not just more discipline. Learn how self-sabotage masks deeper trauma, why identity-based habits stick, and how emotional tools like EFT and breathwork can help you finally move forward.

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Episode 77: Build A Business That Feels Like Home

In this behind-the-scenes episode, Kerri Roberts unveils the vision, structure, and soul behind The Collectives—four powerful membership communities designed to support HR professionals, small business owners, faith-driven women, and bold entrepreneurs. This is not just another course model. It's a movement centered on connection, clarity, and real transformation. Kerri shares the exact strategy, pricing models, and tools she used to build recurring revenue without sacrificing relational depth. If you're looking to scale impact while staying anchored in purpose, this conversation is your blueprint.

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Episode 76: From Burnout To Calling

I was staring at a calendar packed with meetings…meetings that once excited me but now felt like noise. Somewhere between the metrics and the deadlines, I lost sight of the why.
In this episode, I share the moment I knew I had to walk away from corporate, the internal war between safety and purpose, and how tools like Human Design, Gene Keys, and Six Sigma helped me find clarity in the chaos. If you’re stuck in success that doesn’t feel like yours anymore… this is for you.

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Episode 74: Why Entrepreneurial Spirit Can Ruin Your Team

In this solo episode, Kerri dives into the hiring phrase “entrepreneurial spirit” and why it may be doing more harm than good. Drawing from her personal experiences and lessons as a founder, she explains how this phrase can attract the wrong candidates, disrupt culture, and lead to expensive hiring missteps. Hear what Airbnb’s Brian Chesky says about culture, discover surprising data on entrepreneur mental health, and get phrases you should be using in your job descriptions to foster alignment and creativity.

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Episode 73: How to Rewire Your Brain with Gratitude and Mindset

This isn’t about vision boards and wishful thinking. I’m talking about rewiring your brain through proven science because the way we think literally changes our outcomes. Whether it’s a strategic pause in your day, a moment of mental rehearsal, or writing your goals on paper, these mindset tools are not just inspiring they’re backed by neuroscience. If you’re ready to step out of stress mode and into a life of alignment, let’s rewire your success story from the inside out.

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Episode 71: Strategy Is The Power Move

In this powerful episode of Don't Waste the Chaos, Kerri Roberts redefines what business strategy truly means. Far from a static plan gathering dust on a shelf, Kerri presents strategy as a living, breathing series of choices that steer how a business grows, adapts, and leads.

With her signature clarity and sharp insight, Kerri unpacks how leaders can simplify execution, clarify their ideal customer, and create lasting alignment using real-time data and cultural clarity. This episode is a must-listen for founders, executives, and team leaders ready to ditch complexity and lead with intention.

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Episode 69: Top 20 Ways Small Businesses Can Use AI Today

AI isn’t just for big tech. In this episode, Kerri Roberts shares how entrepreneurs and small business leaders are using artificial intelligence to automate tasks, improve decision-making, and drive growth. If you're wondering how to start using AI in your business, this episode delivers practical, real-world insights to get you moving.

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Episode 68: When to Pivot: Signs Your Business Needs Change

In this solo episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, Kerri Roberts shares her personal journey of pivoting in business and the clarity that came from embracing change. She breaks down how business complexity often signals it’s time to evolve—and offers frameworks to simplify your services, strengthen your team, and better serve your ideal clients. Whether you're in a season of uncertainty or proactively reimagining your business model, this episode gives you the tools to pivot with purpose.

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Episode 66: When Employees Bully Leaders: Unpacking Reverse Bullying and What to Do About It

In this powerful episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, Kerri Roberts exposes a leadership issue most avoid: reverse bullying. While we often hear about managers mistreating employees, Kerri flips the narrative—revealing what happens when subordinates bully up the chain.

With personal stories, two legal case studies (including the Laura Händel and Ruffley cases), and real-world strategies, Kerri unpacks how reverse bullying unfolds, what it costs your organization, and how to reclaim authority as a leader. If you’ve ever felt manipulated, isolated, or falsely accused by someone you manage—this episode is your wake-up call.

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Episode 64: How Writing a Book Can Grow Your Business and Establish You as an Expert

In this special episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, Kerri is pulling back the curtain on her journey of writing a book—why she did it, what it’s about, and what she learned along the way. If you’ve ever had the quiet dream of writing a book but talked yourself out of it, this episode is for you. Kerri walks you through the mindset shifts, challenges, and wins that come with turning your expertise into something tangible. Plus, she gives you a sneak peek into her upcoming book, a must-read for business leaders and HR professionals looking to build strong, people-centered organizations.

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Episode 60: Is a PEO the Right Choice for Your Business

In this episode, Kerri Roberts discusses the critical decision small to mid-sized businesses face regarding their HR strategy: whether to outsource HR functions through a Professional Employer Organization (PEO) or to manage them in-house. She outlines the pros and cons of each approach, focusing on key considerations such as cost, compliance, and control. Kerri also provides insights into the types of businesses that typically benefit from PEOs and offers guidance on how to make the best choice for your organization based on its specific goals and needs.

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Episode 58: How to Create Goals That Actually Motivate Your Team

In this conversation, Kerri Roberts breaks down the critical issue of unclear expectations in leadership and people management. She highlights how lack of clarity leads to employee frustration, decreased productivity, and missed opportunities. Kerri provides actionable strategies for leaders to set clear goals, define roles, communicate effectively, and document progress—ensuring a more engaged and accountable workforce.

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Episode 55: 12 Steps to Launch Your Podcast

In this episode, Kerri Roberts celebrates the one-year anniversary of her podcast, 'Don't Waste the Chaos.' She reflects on her journey, sharing insights on why she started the podcast, the lessons learned throughout the year, and practical steps for those considering starting their own podcast. Kerri emphasizes the importance of authenticity, consistency, and vulnerability in connecting with an audience, and provides a detailed checklist for launching a successful podcast.

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