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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

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Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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EP 97: The Death of Employee Loyalty (And How HR Can Fix It)

Employee loyalty isn’t dead—we slowly killed it with broken promises, bad policies, and missing conversations. In this episode recap, HR and leadership consultant Kerri M. Roberts breaks down how trust eroded and the simple, low-lift systems any business can use to rebuild loyalty through real relationships, not just policies.

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Episode 83: Build the Business, Don’t Break the People

In this episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, Kerri Roberts sits down with Emily Holdman, Managing Director at Permanent Equity, to unpack what it means to lead through complexity with conviction and care. Emily shares how her “people-first” approach, paired with a long-term investment philosophy, shapes decisions that prioritize clarity over speed. From rethinking “safety” in times of change to applying the principle of “do no harm” in business, she offers a masterclass in steady leadership that builds trust, resilience, and lasting impact.

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