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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

Headshot of Missouri podcast host Kerri M. Roberts with microphone for Don't Waste the Chaos

Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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Episode 16: Is It You or Your Workplace? Negative Self-Talk vs. Unhealthy Culture

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the topics of negative self-talk and how to combat it. She also addresses how an employer can help support an individual struggling with negative self-talk. Lastly, she dives in to how to determine if your workplace is unhealthy for you and how to handle it.

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Episode 12: How to Improve Employee Engagement: What Leaders Must Focus On Right Now

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the importance of employee engagement and its impact on productivity, retention, customer experience, innovation, and workplace culture. She emphasizes the need for clear communication, growth and development opportunities, recognition, work-life balance, and a positive work environment to move the needle when it comes to your organization’s employee satisfaction and engagement scores.

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Episode 9: Why Employees Quit — And How to Reduce Turnover in Your Organization

In this episode, Kerri discusses practical strategies to address and reduce employee turnover. She covers various topics, including identifying the root causes of turnover, the importance of one-on-one discussions, MBWA, stay interviews, employee engagement surveys, and much more. From recruitment to exit interviews, let’s learn how to make our companies a better place to work.

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Episode 6: Mastering the Entrepreneurial Mindset.

In this episode, the host explores the qualities and challenges of being an entrepreneur. She shares personal experiences and insights to help aspiring business owners determine if they have what it takes to succeed. The key qualities of a good entrepreneur include visionary leadership, resilience and perseverance, adaptability and flexibility, innovative thinking, risk management, networking and relationship building. The challenges of starting a new business include uncertainty and risk, financial constraints, market competition, balancing priorities, navigating regulations and compliance, building a strong team, managing cash flow, marketing and branding, adapting to change, and managing stress and burnout.

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Episode 5: How to Lead Remote & Hybrid Teams: Expectations, Trust & Performance

Have you been hesitant to allow your employees to work from home? Or did you say yes, but you feel like things aren't going the best? This episode discusses strategies and practices for managing effectively in remote and hybrid work environments. The fundamentals of management remain the same, but adapting management practices to the partially or fully remote setting is crucial.

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Episode 4: EmpowHER: Mastering Pay Negotiation for Women

Are you a female ready to claim your worth in the workplace through essential negotiation skills? This conversation explores the challenges women face in negotiations, including socialization and gender norms, perceived likeability versus assertiveness, lack of role models, pay equity and gender bias, internalized stereotypes, and fear of rejection or backlash. Kerri shares a personal example of negotiating for her worth and emphasizes the importance of research, confidence, effective communication, flexibility, and negotiating with data.

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Episode 3: How to Build a Strategic Plan for Any Size Business (Mission, Vision & Real Alignment)

In this episode, we’re diving deep into the importance of strategic planning for businesses of all sizes. Whether you're a solo entrepreneur or leading a team, strategic planning can be your guiding light to success. I’m sharing practical reasons why a strategic plan is crucial, including providing direction and focus, resource allocation and efficiency, and adaptability to change.

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Episode 1: Welcome to Don’t Waste the Chaos

I’m Kerri Roberts, founder of Salt and Light Advisors, and I’ll be sharing my two decades of corporate experience, insights, and strategies. From performance reviews to real estate investments, and empowering women in business, we'll unravel the challenges, celebrate the victories, and learn from the setbacks. Join me as we dive into actionable strategies, innovative solutions, and real-life stories that can help you thrive in both your business and personal life.

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