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A top-rated HR + leadership podcast with 80%+ listener retention.

A top-rated HR + leadership podcast with 80%+ listener retention.

Hosted by Kerri M. Roberts - HR consultant, leadership coach, and straight-talk strategist helping you lead with clarity in business and life.

New episodes weekly. Listen on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.

Headshot of Missouri podcast host Kerri M. Roberts with microphone for Don't Waste the Chaos

Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Leadership isn’t clean - it’s chaotic, complex, and deeply human.
Each week, I sit down with entrepreneurs, executives, and experts to talk about the moments that tested them most - and what they learned from the mess.

You’ll hear candid stories, practical strategies, and the kind of conversations that make you rethink how you lead, work, and live.

Kerri’s Most-Streamed Episodes
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Don’t Waste the Chaos was built on the belief that our hardest seasons can become our greatest teachers.

We feature bold leaders, HR pros, and entrepreneurs who bring raw, real stories of:

  • Leadership & business growth

  • Resilience, rebuilding, and clarity

  • Faith, purpose, and meaning

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Episode 13: Optimizing Your Employee Benefits Strategy: Navigating Choices, Trends & Partnerships

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by guests Lexi Stiles and Sarah Hudson to discuss recent trends in the employee benefits space, particularly regarding insurance carriers' approaches and strategies. The conversation then shifts to the different benefit plan options, including fully insured, self-funded, and partially self-funded plans, and the advantages and disadvantages of each as well as what type of employers may want to engage with these plan options.

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Episode 12: Low Employee Engagement? How and why to make it a focus.

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the importance of employee engagement and its impact on productivity, retention, customer experience, innovation, and workplace culture. She emphasizes the need for clear communication, growth and development opportunities, recognition, work-life balance, and a positive work environment to move the needle when it comes to your organization’s employee satisfaction and engagement scores.

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Episode 11: Sculpting Success: Insights from a med spa CEO

In this episode, Kerri interviews Beth Donaldson, the founder + CEO of SkinBe Med Spa. They discuss Beth's personal narrative of starting a business and overcoming adversity, strategies for longevity and success in the aesthetics industry, trends and innovations, and Kerri's secrets about her personal transformation including what products and services have helped her lose 55 pounds and turn back the hands of time.

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Episode 9: Employee Turnover-Why it happens and how to stop it.

In this episode, Kerri discusses practical strategies to address and reduce employee turnover. She covers various topics, including identifying the root causes of turnover, the importance of one-on-one discussions, MBWA, stay interviews, employee engagement surveys, and much more. From recruitment to exit interviews, let’s learn how to make our companies a better place to work.

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Episode 8: Real Estate Investments

In this episode, Kerri interviews Terry Roberts, a 25+ year real estate and mortgage powerhouse, to discuss primary and secondary home purchases as well as investment options. He shares how he get started in real estate, tips on how to choose a good lender for one of the largest purchases of your life and brings some insider information on the home buy process, whether its for a primary or secondary home, or even an investment property.

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Episode 7: HR/Payroll Software for Small Business

In this episode, our host Kerri Roberts interviews Cody Cummings, Sr. Business Consultant with Tesseon, about HR & payroll software for small businesses. Tesseon is a payroll & HR compliance services company that brings your payroll and HR operations into one platform. Key features of their system are hiring, onboarding, employee tracking, payroll, benefits administration, and expense management, but most of all, Tesseon puts great customer service at the top of their list.

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Episode 6: Mastering the Entrepreneurial Mindset.

In this episode, the host explores the qualities and challenges of being an entrepreneur. She shares personal experiences and insights to help aspiring business owners determine if they have what it takes to succeed. The key qualities of a good entrepreneur include visionary leadership, resilience and perseverance, adaptability and flexibility, innovative thinking, risk management, networking and relationship building. The challenges of starting a new business include uncertainty and risk, financial constraints, market competition, balancing priorities, navigating regulations and compliance, building a strong team, managing cash flow, marketing and branding, adapting to change, and managing stress and burnout.

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Episode 5: How to Manage (and Lead) Remote or Hybrid Workers

Have you been hesitant to allow your employees to work from home? Or did you say yes, but you feel like things aren't going the best? This episode discusses strategies and practices for managing effectively in remote and hybrid work environments. The fundamentals of management remain the same, but adapting management practices to the partially or fully remote setting is crucial.

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Episode 4: EmpowHER: Mastering Pay Negotiation for Women

Are you a female ready to claim your worth in the workplace through essential negotiation skills? This conversation explores the challenges women face in negotiations, including socialization and gender norms, perceived likeability versus assertiveness, lack of role models, pay equity and gender bias, internalized stereotypes, and fear of rejection or backlash. Kerri shares a personal example of negotiating for her worth and emphasizes the importance of research, confidence, effective communication, flexibility, and negotiating with data.

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Episode 3: Strategic Planning for Businesses of Any Size

In this episode, we’re diving deep into the importance of strategic planning for businesses of all sizes. Whether you're a solo entrepreneur or leading a team, strategic planning can be your guiding light to success. I’m sharing practical reasons why a strategic plan is crucial, including providing direction and focus, resource allocation and efficiency, and adaptability to change.

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Episode 1: Welcome to Don’t Waste the Chaos

I’m Kerri Roberts, founder of Salt and Light Advisors, and I’ll be sharing my two decades of corporate experience, insights, and strategies. From performance reviews to real estate investments, and empowering women in business, we'll unravel the challenges, celebrate the victories, and learn from the setbacks. Join me as we dive into actionable strategies, innovative solutions, and real-life stories that can help you thrive in both your business and personal life.

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