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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

Headshot of Missouri podcast host Kerri M. Roberts with microphone for Don't Waste the Chaos

Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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Episode 35: Networking Like a Pro

In this episode, host Kerri Roberts interviews David Clithero, a VP at a leading bank, about his career journey and his personal philosophy on networking. They discuss the importance of building and sustaining meaningful relationships, the balance of giving and receiving, and the impact of networking on both professional and personal life. David shares strategies for networking, such as being involved in the community, showing up consistently, and being a good listener. He also emphasizes the value of being present and helpful, and the importance of long-term relationships in achieving significant goals.

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Episode 17- How HR & Payroll Tech Saves Time and Money for Small Businesses

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, the challenges faced by HR and payroll departments and how modern software solutions address these challenges. She is joined by Josh Robinson, President and second-generation owner of CheckmateHCM, which is an HR/Payroll Tech company focused on user experience and personalized customer service.

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Episode 13: Employee Benefits Explained: Fully Insured vs. Self-Funded (What Small Businesses Need to Know)

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by guests Lexi Stiles and Sarah Hudson to discuss recent trends in the employee benefits space, particularly regarding insurance carriers' approaches and strategies. The conversation then shifts to the different benefit plan options, including fully insured, self-funded, and partially self-funded plans, and the advantages and disadvantages of each as well as what type of employers may want to engage with these plan options.

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Episode 11: Sculpting Success: Insights from a med spa CEO

In this episode, Kerri interviews Beth Donaldson, the founder + CEO of SkinBe Med Spa. They discuss Beth's personal narrative of starting a business and overcoming adversity, strategies for longevity and success in the aesthetics industry, trends and innovations, and Kerri's secrets about her personal transformation including what products and services have helped her lose 55 pounds and turn back the hands of time.

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Episode 10: Small Business Finances: What You Must Know About Bookkeeping, Accounting & CFO Support

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by Rebecca Knipp, Founder + CEO of Optimized CFO + Controller Services. They tackle the topics of business financials, the difference between budgeting or business planning, what small business owners need to know when it comes to their money, and much more.

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Episode 7: Best HR & Payroll Software for Small Business: What You Actually Need

In this episode, our host Kerri Roberts interviews Cody Cummings, Sr. Business Consultant with Tesseon, about HR & payroll software for small businesses. Tesseon is a payroll & HR compliance services company that brings your payroll and HR operations into one platform. Key features of their system are hiring, onboarding, employee tracking, payroll, benefits administration, and expense management, but most of all, Tesseon puts great customer service at the top of their list.

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Episode 6: Mastering the Entrepreneurial Mindset.

In this episode, the host explores the qualities and challenges of being an entrepreneur. She shares personal experiences and insights to help aspiring business owners determine if they have what it takes to succeed. The key qualities of a good entrepreneur include visionary leadership, resilience and perseverance, adaptability and flexibility, innovative thinking, risk management, networking and relationship building. The challenges of starting a new business include uncertainty and risk, financial constraints, market competition, balancing priorities, navigating regulations and compliance, building a strong team, managing cash flow, marketing and branding, adapting to change, and managing stress and burnout.

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Episode 3: How to Build a Strategic Plan for Any Size Business (Mission, Vision & Real Alignment)

In this episode, we’re diving deep into the importance of strategic planning for businesses of all sizes. Whether you're a solo entrepreneur or leading a team, strategic planning can be your guiding light to success. I’m sharing practical reasons why a strategic plan is crucial, including providing direction and focus, resource allocation and efficiency, and adaptability to change.

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