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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

Headshot of Missouri podcast host Kerri M. Roberts with microphone for Don't Waste the Chaos

Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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Episode 52: The 5 Metrics Every Business Owner MUST Track for 2025 Success

In this episode, we dive into the essential metrics every business owner should track to close out 2024 strong and prepare for a thriving 2025. Data-driven decisions are the backbone of successful businesses, and Kerri Roberts breaks down key areas of measurement to drive growth and efficiency. From revenue and profitability insights to customer acquisition and retention strategies, she highlights the importance of understanding financial performance and building lasting relationships. The conversation also explores operational efficiency, marketing and sales performance, and employee engagement, providing practical ways to optimize processes and foster a high-performing team. Tune in to learn how tracking the right metrics can set your business up for success in the year ahead.

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Episode 42: Year-End Payroll Checklist

In this episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, we’re diving into one of the most critical tasks for business owners as the year winds down: the year-end payroll wrap-up. From verifying employee data to filing crucial tax forms, we’ll walk you through a comprehensive checklist to ensure your payroll process is smooth, compliant, and ready for the new year. Staying on top of payroll not only helps avoid penalties but also builds trust with your employees and sets your company up for success in 2024.

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Episode 40: HR Compliance Checklist

In this episode of Don't Waste the Chaos, host Kerri Roberts dives deep into the world of legal compliance in human resources, sharing essential best practices for business owners and HR professionals. Whether you're running a small business without a full-time HR team or overseeing a growing company, staying compliant with employment laws and regulations is crucial. Kerri outlines 7 key strategies, from keeping up with ever-evolving laws to documenting everything thoroughly and conducting employee training. Tune in to learn how to create a culture of fairness and transparency while avoiding costly legal pitfalls.

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Episode 36: Outdated HR Practices that are Killing your Business.

In this episode of Don’t Waste the Chaos, 20 year HR Pro Kerri Roberts explores how outdated HR practices could be slowing down your business, hurting your ability to attract top talent, and reducing employee engagement. From manual processes to rigid work policies, we’ll discuss why it’s time to leave these old methods behind and adopt modern, efficient HR strategies.

Whether you’re an HR leader or a business owner, this episode will show you how to make the changes that can help your company thrive in today’s competitive landscape.

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Episode 33: Paytient: Solving the Healthcare Affordability Crisis

On this episode, Kerri dives deep into employee benefits with a focus on healthcare expenses. Our guest is Brian Whorley, the founder and CEO of Paytient, a company that’s transforming the way employees manage medical expenses.

In this episode, Brian shares the story behind his journey from working in a non-profit hospital to founding Paytient. He discusses what inspired him to create an alternative model for managing healthcare costs, a model that is now making waves across various industries. We explore how Paytient's approach is impacting the landscape of employee benefits, integrating with traditional insurance plans, and providing significant advantages for both employees and employers.

Brian also delves into the challenges and market hesitations he's faced and how his team has successfully navigated them. You'll hear real-life success stories that showcase the difference Paytient has made for companies and their employees.

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Episode 30: The Secret to Elevating HR

We're exploring the intersection between Human Resources (HR) and Operations. Our host, 20 year HR pro Kerri Roberts, shares her personal journey, from being assessed as a stereotypical COO to proving why HR professionals need operational expertise. Discover why HR should not be viewed as a necessary evil but as a critical component of business operations.

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Episode 25: Tough Decisions: When and How to Reduce Your Workforce

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, a 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the difficult topic of reductions in force and layoffs. She provides key indicators and steps to help determine if it's time to consider reducing the workforce. Kerri also highlights the legal implications and considerations when navigating this tough process.

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Episode 17- How HR & Payroll Tech Saves Time and Money for Small Businesses

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, the challenges faced by HR and payroll departments and how modern software solutions address these challenges. She is joined by Josh Robinson, President and second-generation owner of CheckmateHCM, which is an HR/Payroll Tech company focused on user experience and personalized customer service.

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Episode 13: Employee Benefits Explained: Fully Insured vs. Self-Funded (What Small Businesses Need to Know)

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by guests Lexi Stiles and Sarah Hudson to discuss recent trends in the employee benefits space, particularly regarding insurance carriers' approaches and strategies. The conversation then shifts to the different benefit plan options, including fully insured, self-funded, and partially self-funded plans, and the advantages and disadvantages of each as well as what type of employers may want to engage with these plan options.

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Episode 7: Best HR & Payroll Software for Small Business: What You Actually Need

In this episode, our host Kerri Roberts interviews Cody Cummings, Sr. Business Consultant with Tesseon, about HR & payroll software for small businesses. Tesseon is a payroll & HR compliance services company that brings your payroll and HR operations into one platform. Key features of their system are hiring, onboarding, employee tracking, payroll, benefits administration, and expense management, but most of all, Tesseon puts great customer service at the top of their list.

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Episode 2: The Role of Performance Management for a Thriving Workplace

Are you looking to drive better results and unleash the potential of your team this year? Learn how effective performance management can boost your team's productivity, engagement, and overall success. In this episode, we dive deep into the crucial role of performance reviews and ongoing performance management.

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