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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

Headshot of Missouri podcast host Kerri M. Roberts with microphone for Don't Waste the Chaos

Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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Episode 21: What Gen Z/Gen Alpha Really Think: Parenting, Phones & Family Business

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by a member of Generation Z (born in 2012) to share insights on how it feels to have working parents, what it's like to move from the city to the country, feelings on cell phones for kids, and how to hire your child into your business for tax shelters and future financial success for your kids.

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Episode 18: The Cost of Ineffective Leadership

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the impact and factors contributing to ineffective leadership. And, for many businesses, ineffective leadership remains one of the top challenges they face. From communication breakdowns to lack of vision, the repercussions of poor leadership can be costly and far-reaching. Kerri also explores why ineffective leadership is a prevalent issue and offers practical strategies for business owners to address it today.

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Episode 17- How HR & Payroll Tech Saves Time and Money for Small Businesses

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, the challenges faced by HR and payroll departments and how modern software solutions address these challenges. She is joined by Josh Robinson, President and second-generation owner of CheckmateHCM, which is an HR/Payroll Tech company focused on user experience and personalized customer service.

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Episode 16: Is It You or Your Workplace? Negative Self-Talk vs. Unhealthy Culture

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the topics of negative self-talk and how to combat it. She also addresses how an employer can help support an individual struggling with negative self-talk. Lastly, she dives in to how to determine if your workplace is unhealthy for you and how to handle it.

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Episode 13: Employee Benefits Explained: Fully Insured vs. Self-Funded (What Small Businesses Need to Know)

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by guests Lexi Stiles and Sarah Hudson to discuss recent trends in the employee benefits space, particularly regarding insurance carriers' approaches and strategies. The conversation then shifts to the different benefit plan options, including fully insured, self-funded, and partially self-funded plans, and the advantages and disadvantages of each as well as what type of employers may want to engage with these plan options.

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Episode 12: How to Improve Employee Engagement: What Leaders Must Focus On Right Now

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the importance of employee engagement and its impact on productivity, retention, customer experience, innovation, and workplace culture. She emphasizes the need for clear communication, growth and development opportunities, recognition, work-life balance, and a positive work environment to move the needle when it comes to your organization’s employee satisfaction and engagement scores.

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Episode 11: Sculpting Success: Insights from a med spa CEO

In this episode, Kerri interviews Beth Donaldson, the founder + CEO of SkinBe Med Spa. They discuss Beth's personal narrative of starting a business and overcoming adversity, strategies for longevity and success in the aesthetics industry, trends and innovations, and Kerri's secrets about her personal transformation including what products and services have helped her lose 55 pounds and turn back the hands of time.

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Episode 10: Small Business Finances: What You Must Know About Bookkeeping, Accounting & CFO Support

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by Rebecca Knipp, Founder + CEO of Optimized CFO + Controller Services. They tackle the topics of business financials, the difference between budgeting or business planning, what small business owners need to know when it comes to their money, and much more.

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Episode 9: Why Employees Quit — And How to Reduce Turnover in Your Organization

In this episode, Kerri discusses practical strategies to address and reduce employee turnover. She covers various topics, including identifying the root causes of turnover, the importance of one-on-one discussions, MBWA, stay interviews, employee engagement surveys, and much more. From recruitment to exit interviews, let’s learn how to make our companies a better place to work.

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Episode 8: How to Buy a Home: What You Need to Know About Lenders, Credit & Real Estate

In this episode, Kerri interviews Terry Roberts, a 25+ year real estate and mortgage powerhouse, to discuss primary and secondary home purchases as well as investment options. He shares how he get started in real estate, tips on how to choose a good lender for one of the largest purchases of your life and brings some insider information on the home buy process, whether its for a primary or secondary home, or even an investment property.

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Episode 7: Best HR & Payroll Software for Small Business: What You Actually Need

In this episode, our host Kerri Roberts interviews Cody Cummings, Sr. Business Consultant with Tesseon, about HR & payroll software for small businesses. Tesseon is a payroll & HR compliance services company that brings your payroll and HR operations into one platform. Key features of their system are hiring, onboarding, employee tracking, payroll, benefits administration, and expense management, but most of all, Tesseon puts great customer service at the top of their list.

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Episode 6: Mastering the Entrepreneurial Mindset.

In this episode, the host explores the qualities and challenges of being an entrepreneur. She shares personal experiences and insights to help aspiring business owners determine if they have what it takes to succeed. The key qualities of a good entrepreneur include visionary leadership, resilience and perseverance, adaptability and flexibility, innovative thinking, risk management, networking and relationship building. The challenges of starting a new business include uncertainty and risk, financial constraints, market competition, balancing priorities, navigating regulations and compliance, building a strong team, managing cash flow, marketing and branding, adapting to change, and managing stress and burnout.

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