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75,000+ podcast views across platforms

1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed

A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

75,000+ podcast views across platforms 1,300+ hours of leadership conversations consumed A growing audience of leaders, operators, and business owners

Leadership Isn’t Clean. It’s Chaotic.

Don’t Waste the Chaos is where real leaders talk about the moments that tested them—and what it actually takes to lead through them.

Hosted by Kerri Roberts, this podcast blends business, leadership, faith, and real-world experience—without the polished answers or corporate scripts.

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Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Each week, I sit down with leaders, entrepreneurs, and experts to talk about:

  • the pressure no one talks about

  • the decisions that shape teams and businesses

  • what actually works when things get messy

These aren’t highlight reels. They’re the conversations leaders actually need.

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EP 97: The Death of Employee Loyalty (And How HR Can Fix It)

Employee loyalty isn’t dead—we slowly killed it with broken promises, bad policies, and missing conversations. In this episode recap, HR and leadership consultant Kerri M. Roberts breaks down how trust eroded and the simple, low-lift systems any business can use to rebuild loyalty through real relationships, not just policies.

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EP 96: How to Lead with Devotion & Discernment (Part 2)

In Part 2 of Devotion & Discernment, Kerri moves from revelation to application. She breaks down the weekly rhythm of Structure, Stewardship, and Spirit—and how it helps leaders stop over-functioning, protect their calling, and make decisions from peace instead of pressure. If you’ve been craving practical “handles,” this is the episode where devotion becomes direction.

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Episode 81: Right Sizing vs Layoffs | Lead with Integrity or Panic Like Everyone Else

The real test of leadership isn’t how fast you grow - it’s how you show up when growth slows. Most leaders panic. They downsize in a frenzy, hide behind vague language like ‘restructuring,’ and leave their teams in the dark. But right sizing? That’s different. That’s stewardship. That’s intentional. And if you're not planning your workforce like you plan your marketing, you're already behind.

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Episode 61: Leadership Strategies for Modern Higher Education Institutions

"Leadership isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about asking the right questions and being willing to grow." In this episode of Don't Waste the Chaos, host Kerri Roberts sits down with Dr. Sue Thomas, the 17th president of Truman State University, to discuss leadership, risk-taking, and the evolving role of higher education. They dive into the challenges women face in leadership, the power of self-reflection, and why authenticity is key to success. Plus, they explore how AI and lifelong learning are shaping the future of work and education.

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