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A top-rated HR + leadership podcast with 80%+ listener retention.

A top-rated HR + leadership podcast with 80%+ listener retention.

Hosted by Kerri M. Roberts - HR consultant, leadership coach, and straight-talk strategist helping you lead with clarity in business and life.

New episodes weekly. Listen on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.

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Real Conversations. Real Growth.

Leadership isn’t clean - it’s chaotic, complex, and deeply human.
Each week, I sit down with entrepreneurs, executives, and experts to talk about the moments that tested them most - and what they learned from the mess.

You’ll hear candid stories, practical strategies, and the kind of conversations that make you rethink how you lead, work, and live.

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Don’t Waste the Chaos was built on the belief that our hardest seasons can become our greatest teachers.

We feature bold leaders, HR pros, and entrepreneurs who bring raw, real stories of:

  • Leadership & business growth

  • Resilience, rebuilding, and clarity

  • Faith, purpose, and meaning

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Episode 33: Paytient: Solving the Healthcare Affordability Crisis

On this episode, Kerri dives deep into employee benefits with a focus on healthcare expenses. Our guest is Brian Whorley, the founder and CEO of Paytient, a company that’s transforming the way employees manage medical expenses.

In this episode, Brian shares the story behind his journey from working in a non-profit hospital to founding Paytient. He discusses what inspired him to create an alternative model for managing healthcare costs, a model that is now making waves across various industries. We explore how Paytient's approach is impacting the landscape of employee benefits, integrating with traditional insurance plans, and providing significant advantages for both employees and employers.

Brian also delves into the challenges and market hesitations he's faced and how his team has successfully navigated them. You'll hear real-life success stories that showcase the difference Paytient has made for companies and their employees.

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Episode 30: The Secret to Elevating HR

We're exploring the intersection between Human Resources (HR) and Operations. Our host, 20 year HR pro Kerri Roberts, shares her personal journey, from being assessed as a stereotypical COO to proving why HR professionals need operational expertise. Discover why HR should not be viewed as a necessary evil but as a critical component of business operations.

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Episode 29: Control Freak or Empowering Leader?

When you micromanage, you’re not just controlling the work; you’re stifling the growth and potential of your team. It's a serious issue that can disrupt teams and hinder growth. On this episode of DWTC, our host Kerri Roberts dives deep into why micromanagement occurs, its negative effects, and practical strategies to transform from a micromanager into an empowering leader.

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Episode 28: The Science Behind Workplace Stress & Exhaustion.

In this episode, we dive deep into the science behind burnout and workplace stress. Discover how chronic stress affects both mind and body, and learn practical strategies to manage and prevent burnout. Whether you're an employee feeling overwhelmed or a leader looking to support your team, this episode offers valuable insights and solutions.  

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Episode 26: Mastering Workplace Health: Insights from an Ergonomics Expert

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by Paul Krewson, Founder + CEO of Peak Ergonomics. They dive into the critical topic of health and safety for professionals, both on the worksite and at home. Paul brings a wealth of knowledge and passion for ergonomics and early intervention, holding several certifications in the field. We discuss the inspiration behind Peak Ergonomics, the impact of early intervention programs, and the growing importance of ergonomic setups in remote work environments.

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Episode 21: Youthful Wisdom from Generation Z/Gen Alpha

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, is joined by a member of Generation Z (born in 2012) to share insights on how it feels to have working parents, what it's like to move from the city to the country, feelings on cell phones for kids, and how to hire your child into your business for tax shelters and future financial success for your kids.

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Episode 18: The Cost of Ineffective Leadership

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, discusses the impact and factors contributing to ineffective leadership. And, for many businesses, ineffective leadership remains one of the top challenges they face. From communication breakdowns to lack of vision, the repercussions of poor leadership can be costly and far-reaching. Kerri also explores why ineffective leadership is a prevalent issue and offers practical strategies for business owners to address it today.

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Episode 17- Streamlining HR & Payroll Processes with Tech.

In this episode, Kerri Roberts, 20+ year HR Pro, the challenges faced by HR and payroll departments and how modern software solutions address these challenges. She is joined by Josh Robinson, President and second-generation owner of CheckmateHCM, which is an HR/Payroll Tech company focused on user experience and personalized customer service.

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